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Grrr... I had it all typed out and everything and when I tried to post it I had to log in again and it was gone! I'll try to say it again, but... whatever.

If we believe abortion is wrong because of religious reasons or ethics or whatever, should we set that as a guideline for the rest of the country? I mean, do we have the right to decide for other people if they should get an abortion or not?

I guess I'm more pro-choice than pro-life pretty much because I don't think people should make those kinds of decisions for others, but are most Christians pro-life? I know Sarah is and there was a whole stand that was pro-life at Sonshine, but it's divided just like everything else, right?

I don't know... Is anyone else willing to share their opinion?

Hey Amy,
Great question! A tricky topic for Christians too.
Let me ask this as a follow up, what other laws take away people's right to choose what they do? Are those laws unjust as well?

Well, if you want to go down another road, we could say the same thing about gay and lesbian marriages, which I know we've talked about multiple times already. It think it's only legal in a few states, right? I believe New Jersey's one of them? (I only know that from I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry) I don't think it's right to outlaw domestic partnership because it's just as bad as any other sin and it's not like you're actually physically hurting anybody, so... I forgot what I was going to say. Darn.

Do you at least kind of get what I'm saying? I know with abortion you're actually killing a living thing so it's different, but it's a choice you should be able to make on your own. I don't know. When I grow up I'm going to find an island and call it Amyland and everything will be peechy keen like in the Walgreens commercials and we won't have any problems at all. Wait, that's what heaven is for!

Amyland is like Walgreens? That's just... weird.
I get what you're saying, personal freedom and stuff, right?
The problem I have it that people that are pro-choice aren't lobbying against drunk driving laws (who are we to say you can or can't drive in that condition?), speeding (who are we to say what speed you can drive?) or pretty much any other law.
Taken to a more extreme level, who's to say it isn't right for people to murder one another. You agree that it's a living thing, so it's location is what determines whether or not we consider it murder. That's like passing a law that says you can't kill people, unless they're at the library, then it's cool.
So the "it's my choice" argument falls apart if you apply it to the rest of society, which to me indicates that it i not a very convincing precedent.
That said, pro-life people usually piss me off. They're such haters! So while I'm down with killing babies, I sure wish people would talk like this about instead of busting out bullhorns.
What do you think? Is it fair to apply this chain of logic to the discussion?

Wha...? Wow, that's confusing! I don't know, I agree with what you said about pro-life people not acting out against other laws and such. It's stupid and weird and frustrating all at once...

I think part of what I'm thinking is we need to be able to help people who are actually out of the tummy first. Like people who are in poverty and starve day after day. (I just watched the 30 hour famine video ) I just think that if we can't help the rest of the people in the world who are already here, why are we worrying about abortion already? I mean, without people there are no babies, and no babies means... no more people... That would suck.

Doesn't that logic mean that genocide would be the solution to world hunger? Less people = less problems? Who knows, maybe someone in a tummy right now can cure AIDS. (I watched the 30 Hour video today too! Weird!)
I don't think the same culture can work to end the suffering of hunger while also saying that some life isn't worth defending.

Well if you want to put things that way, abortion should be mandatory for "x" number of people each year to decrease the population. It's kind of a matter between people who already have a life and people who could have one. Great. That's complicated to think about... I guess if I had to make that choice, I would choose abortion just because an unborn child of less than three months old probably can't suffer the same way a grown and developed person can. Are people going to hate me for saying that?